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Hi everyone I'm in the process of going over all my sources for a book I'm writing on my dad's side the family. I manage to get a copy of Evidence Explained from my library and its been endlessly helpful but its also hard to find the exact answer to something I'm just now learning to how properly formate things. I used A LOT of articles from newspapers.com. I've been trying to work out how I could cite both the website version and the print version at the same time so others would know how to look for the hardcopy if need to. Most of the time the page numbers are different online versus the print so I would like to point that out. This may seem overly simply to me but I would like to know if this is the best approach. This is example of one my citations:
"Dorchester District," The Boston Daily Globe, 12 Apr 1894, p. 10 of 10. digital images, Newspapers.com (http://www.newspapers.com : accessed 01 Oct 2020); original print "Dorchester District," The Boston Daily Globe, (12 Apr 1894), p. 10
Also I've read that your suppose to include what paragraph/column on the newspaper page your using in the citation is this correct? Thanks for the advice.
Tower19, the most basic rule…
Tower19, the most basic rule for citation is this: We cite what we use. If we use the online edition, then that is what we cite. If we have used both an online edition and a print edition, and we find differences between the two and wish to cite both to help others, we can do that. Unless there are differences between the two, however, citing both would be redundant.
I'm puzzled by the statement that "most of the time the page numbers are different online versus the print." Can you supply an example? Most online providers that specialize in newspapers provide images of the print edition; thus the page numbers are the same. When we visit the website of a newspaper publisher and use its online edition, there is a difference in formatting because the digital version is typically HTML which does not use page numbers. If the website presents the paper as HTML but tells us that it appeared on p. x of this-or-that print edition (metro edition, morning edition, afternoon edition, etc.), then we would add a layer, after the citation of the website, to say “citing p. x of Whatever Edition.”
EE’s model for using an imaged newspaper, at the website of an online provider, is at 14.22. The specific example is to Ancestry, rather than the Newspapers.com. The format is the same. The first layer cites the newspaper’s print edition that has been imaged. The second layer cites the website itself. In your case, the result for a reference note citation (with each layer colorized differently here for instructional purposes) would be this:
1. “Dorchester District,” Boston (Massachusetts) Daily Globe, 12 April 1894, p. 10, col. ___; imaged at Newspapers.com (http://www.newspapers.com : accessed 1 October 2020).
Yes, we include the column number; a section number is also typically needed for 20th–21st century papers because they usually divide each issue into sections and repeat the numbers from one section to the other. No, with newspapers, we do not cite the total number of pages in the paper.
And, yes, it’s frustrating when the guidance we need is a reference book in the library but we need the guidance, right now, while we’re working at our desktop. An 892-page book with examples for more than a thousand types of records is definitely not something we can memorize in a two-week check-out period and then send back. Under those circumstances, the best one can do is to focus on the “QuickStart Guide” tucked into the front of the book. Learn those three pages by heart. Those are your basic patterns for all types of records. Then study the first two chapters that discuss fundamental principles. Those basics are essential for everything else.
Here at this website, you will also find, free, about 200 "sample" pages from the first edition. Past forum discussions, which you can access through key-word queries in the search box, may answer other questions you have.