Church records with a confusing middle layer

By Amberly Beck on Thu, 09/19/2024 - 15:15

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I'm working with membership records from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The records can be accessed digitally through the Church History Catalog found on the Church of Jesus Christ website. The records can also be accessed onsite at the Church History Library in Salt Lake City.

Landing page for the Church History Catalog: https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/?lang=eng 

I'm struggling with the middle layer of the citation.

Layer one:

Kanesville Ward, Weber Stake, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, “Record of Members” (early–1906), pp. 18–19, Edward J. Belle;

Layer two:

; imaged, “Record of members collection, 1836–1970,” Church History Catalog, database, Church of Jesus Christ.org (https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/77ac92c2-2ffb-4362-a96b-cbd87e3dcc64/0/11 : accessed 19 September 2024) > K > Kanab North Ward–Kansas City 3rd Ward > Kanesville 1st Ward, Part 1 > images 12–13 of 330;

Layer three:

; citing, “Call Number CR 375 8,” Church History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah.

The struggle I'm having with the middle layer is that the record is found within a named collection which is accessed through a differently named database on a differently named website. 

After studying EE4 Chapter 8, I did a search of EE4 with the phrase "database within a database" and studied the results. The example on p. 514 that includes “Access to Archival Databases (AAD)” has some similarities to the complicated middle layer of my record. But I don't understand why “Access to Archival Databases (AAD)” is italicized.

Am I on the right track? Should "Church History Catalog" be italicized or in quotation marks?

Note: These record images are open to research but require permission to access them. The catalog structure, however, is publicly visible.

Submitted byEEon Fri, 09/20/2024 - 10:10

Welcome, Amberly.  Without viewing the source, your citation appears well done. Unfortunately, when I try to access the records you are using, I'm denied access and cannot view the actual situation you are describing.

Your comment about a "database within a database" calls to mind one example in EE that fits that description: EE4 § 5.15.  However, the example is a situation in which each database has a different URL and both need to  be cited.

Perhaps a follower of this forum who is an LDS member with access to the website may have other suggestions.

Submitted byAmberly Beckon Fri, 09/20/2024 - 18:49

Thank you, Elizabeth, for the welcome and the guidance. The example at 5.15 is helpful and has given me more to consider.

My apologies, I thought the catalog and its structure were publicly visible without being logged in!

 

Amber, actually the issue wasn't just a log-in to the site. I log in daily at FamilySearch, but when I used the URL you gave, I received a notice that I did not have access to those records.