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I am trying to write a citation for the birth registration I found at Family Search. I know I will have more of these so I wanted to be sure I was getting it right before writing more citations. I will try to upload the image I found so you can see what I am working with.
The citation I wrote is:
Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania "Pennsylvania Births and Christenings, 1709-1950," Database with images, Family Search, (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:HHJ4-6MMM: accessed 2 August 2020), birth registration for Steven [Stephen], James W. 1901: citing "Registration of births, Westmoreland County" p 225, line 14, Westmoreland County Courthouse, Greesburg[Greensburg], Pennsylvania : FHL microfilm no. 1316374, Image no.00310.
It almost seems like I have included to much information. I located the information for the repository from page 4 of the microfilm. I wanted to be sure I identified the image as a register and not a certificate. Thank you for any help you can provide.
James, it’s no wonder you…
Ron, it’s no wonder you are struggling. What should be a simple citation to a courthouse register, filmed online, has been made complicated by the manner in which the provider delivers it.
Let’s start with basics:
When we cite an original register that is imaged online, we have two things to cite:
The most basic point to remember is this: Details that identify the original should not be mixed into the layer that identifies the website.
We may organize the citation in one of two ways:
So how do we decide which approach to use? It depends on endless variables, but primarily these three:
With most courthouse registers imaged by FamilySearch, we can go to the start of the roll and get full identification. More often than not, when we are working with browsable images, the film will display the cover and spine of the register so that we can identify it exactly as we would if we were in the courthouse itself.
That is not the case with the digital film to which you have linked. When I used your link, I discovered a host of problems:
Bottom line: We can’t cite this as though we are there in the courthouse using the original. The only workable approach is to focus on the database and go with the flow of what the database is delivering. (I am also guessing that you discovered this record while querying for a name within the FS database. In other words, you did not seek out this specific register, among FS’s courthouse holdings for Westmoreland, and then search the filmed register as if you were using the original.)
Working with what we’re given, using the means by which you accessed this image, we’d end up with a citation such as this:
“Pennsylvania Births and Christenings, 1709-1950,” database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9T4-93FK-2 : accessed 18 October 2022), image 310 of 533: Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania, “Registration of Births,” p. 225, line 14, James W. Stevens, born 24 May 1901, registered 12 March 1902.
You’ll notice two differences here between this citation and yours:
My citation above actually does need more information because it leaves the reader wondering where in the bejibbers the original volume might be. With some FamilySearch databases, there is a flyout that tells us more information of this type. I don’t see one for this particular set of images. We have to get that data by different means, one that we should describe in a second layer that we structure according to whatever we need to say. I’ve colored it red, below:
“Pennsylvania Births and Christenings, 1709-1950,” database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9T4-93FK-2 : accessed 18 October 2022), image 310 of 533: Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania, “Registration of Births,” p. 225, line 14, James W. Stevens, born 24 May 1901, registered 12 March 1902; image 4 presents the filmer’s target, stating that the register was held in 1982 by the Westmoreland County Courthouse at Gree[n]sburg, Pennsylvania.
ESM - I just wanted to say…
ESM - I just wanted to say that I really appreciate the explanations in your response. Specifically, the 2 types of organization and the 3 variables which influence which approach to use.
I know in the past, another user and I had discussions about database first vs. second and whether that influences the number of layers. And you definitely mention that here. So a "register first layer; online second layer" flips to become a single layer database first note. Of course, I've mentioned before that I tend to do database first citations quite a bit when I am going to have many many entries from the same database!
Anyway, thanks!
niteowl, it's posts like…
niteowl, it's posts like yours and Ron's that help us all figure out what works and what doesn't amid the technological changes in our access to records. We all thank you for being willing to publicly ask the questions and help us think through the issues.