Citation Issues

Ancestry Source-of-the-Source Issues

Dear Editor;

I've read over QuickLesson 26. I've done this several times. However; I still find citing the source of the Ancestry info to be the single most frustrating aspect of using their data.

I understand that we should use the form, "citing ' [Ancestry's stated source-of-source]'." Unfortunately; the punctuation, element ordering and lack of completeness of the stated information, often drives me crazy. The latter point introduces the risk that the data cannot easily be found, even of the noted original site.

Citing a photocopy of an FHL microfilm frame

Dear Editor;

In 2003, I ordered a print of an entry on an FHL microfilm. Recently, I needed to create citation for the image. The type of citations that EE does did not exist at that time. So, I needed to go and do some forensic work to obtain the information from my research notes and the current film catalog. Even with the EE examples, it was still an intimidating task.

I've put together the following citation and would appreciate your feedback.

How does one cite the "ever changing" ScotlandsPeople?

Dear Editor;

ScotlandsPeople seems to have changed frequently over the last 15 or more years. It comes as no surprise that the example in section 9.56 of my 3rd ed. copy of EE doesn't help to cite the current website structure.

There is no longer a, “Statutory Births 1855–2013,” collection. It has been renamed. 

To reach the relevant search page, one now needs to select Advanced Search > Statutory Registers > Births from the main URL,

Citing the "1906 Canadian Census ..." from Ancestry

Dear Editor;

I've been trying to apply what I've learned from the citing of passenger records to citing the Canadian census records from Ancestry. Your "QuickLesson 26: Thinking Through Citations" has also been quite a help.

I've produced the following citation and would appreciate some feedback to ensure I'm on-track before proceeding with additional census citations.

Citation Style: How does one handle the "strange" ones?

Dear Editor;

I'm slowly working through the process of gathering corroborating information on the voyages of one of my ancestors. However; I am beginning to find that some of the citations are quite complex due to the way in which the reference information is presented by the source.

I've tried to leverage the examples in the Evidence Explained book, but the solution to some situations eludes me.


I am using a family letter as a source.  It is several pages and covers different topics.  In my work I'm writing about different topics, and separating those into paragraphs.  I feel uncomfortable leaving a paragraph "naked" (uncited) so I site the source at the end of each, but consequently I'm ending up with a lot of Ibids.  Can there be too many ibids?    If I just did the citation at the end of 5 paragraphs, all of which draw on the same source, would it be a problem to have the earlier paragraphs uncited, or would/should a reader recognize that the source at the end of the 5 paragraph

FamilySearch DGS has different image numbers depending on how it's accessed...

I recently noticed that certain digitized films on FS have different image numbers depending on how they are accessed. Here's an example from the "North Carolina Deaths, 1906–1930" collection...

1. Go to

2. Search for "John Smith"

3. The first search result should be "John Smith" born 1842 and died 1928. Click on the camera icon to view the image.

Citing FamilySearch image only available by browsing film

There are lot of images on FamilySearch, from digitized microfilm, that have neither been indexed, nor are part of a collection. An example would be found here...


This is the death certificate for Max Dennis (died September 4, 1993). NC death certificate images from 1931–1994 are available to view, but are not indexed and are not part of a collection.

Journal Article Citing a Letter

I have gotten myself wrapped around the axle, once again, and can't seem to "see the forest, for the trees."

I have in my hands an original Journal publication:

Woman's Evangle
January 1904
No. 1
Published Monthly by the Woman's Missionary Association of the United Brethren in Christ, Dayton, Ohio.

The article in consideration:

"Latest African News"

The article begins: