Citing multiple entries from Church and Civil Registers

I have upwards of seven Birth and also Baptism registrations; over 20 marriage registrations, and about 16 death and burial registrations, all from either Birmingham Warwickshire UK, or West Bromwich Staffordshire UK.

Each baptism, birth, marriage, death or burial is listed fully in its own footnote.

Is it ok to provide a cover-all reference for the repository where these are held, with a note directing reader back to the footnote?

EG: "England, Warwickshire, Parish Registers, 1535-1963; from parish registers of the Church of England, citing Baptism, Marriage and Burial Registers, Warwick County Record Office, England. Databases and images as found at,, and Individual entries are listed in each footnote."


"England Birth Marriages Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991 from The National Archives, Kew, Richmond, TW9 4DU/GRO databases at,, databases and images found at,, and Individual entries are listed in each footnote."

with thanks


Submitted byEEon Tue, 05/09/2023 - 09:36

Ratty, I assume you're asking about Source List Entries here. On that basis ...

1. If your reader were to go to each of those three websites, how/where would they find "TW9 4DU/GRO databases"?

2. In your first option, are you saying that the "parish registers of the Church of England [are] citing Baptism, Marriage and Burial Registers [at the] Warwick County Record Office?" At one level, that statement is backward: the Warwick County Record Office might be citing the parish registers, but the parish registers would not be citing the Church of England Baptism registers (i.e., they would not be citing themselves).  The bigger issue is that the registers aren't doing the citing. The website databases are doing the citing, telling you where their data and images come from.

3. What is the advantage to creating one Source List Entry that combines three different sources, accessed in three different ways? The purpose of a Source List is to identify what we've used. If you're using the databases at Ancestry, FindMyPast, and FamilySearch, then you have three separate databases to cite. But those three citations all follow the same basic pattern and can be constructed very quickly.

May I ask which EE model you are trying to adapt (section or page)? That would help to understand where your puzzlement lies.



Submitted byHendricksonon Tue, 06/06/2023 - 16:04

I have spent the last week or two trying to analyze a 55 page pension file for the minors of a Civil War sailor on the National Archives website. The pension is strictly for the minors - neither the sailor nor the widow applied for a pension. It's a complicated file and has presented me with some questions that I am hoping you can help me with. As I think about putting citations together, I am afraid that it might get quite complicated and don’t even want to attempt one just yet.

Bundled in the original pension, is a supplemental pension for one of his disabled minors. Documents are presented in no particular order and some appear to be within their own “wrapper” and others appear to be loose. It is difficult to in some cases to determine exact where some of the documents belong.

Given that I have the following questions:

  • Both the pension and supplemental pension application and certificate numbers are the same. Some documents reference the application number, some reference the certificate number and others do not have a number associated with it at all. In a citation would one include both numbers at all times or just the number shown on the document if there is one?
  • For documents that are within the supplemental pension file, do I need to state somewhere that it is packaged with the original pension ?  I suspect that the duplicate numbers might get confusing.
  • For documents that are contained within their own wrapper, do I need to mention the name of the wrapper? Typically the document and the wrapper have similar names with varying degrees of specificity.

Here is the pension in case you need to see it.

I hope I am not over complicating things but I want to be sure I have the correct elements before attempting a citation.


Submitted byHendricksonon Tue, 06/06/2023 - 19:19

Sorry, I don't understand how this posted here when I created a new topic. I will create a new post.