Citations for FindAGrave for a Collective

By SeekingAnswers on Sat, 08/03/2024 - 15:20

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Good day Editor and community,

Until now I have concentrated on creating citations in the three formats (First Reference, Subsequent and Source) for a particular fact.  Now, I am reviewing my citations for FindAGrave as a collective i.e. many people and all their citations for FindAGrave.  I am confused about the use of Subsequent Notes and how to relate a Subsequent Note to the First Reference Note to find the complete information including cemetery name for that item.  

I believe I should treat FindAGrave as a single source- a database along with possible images.  So each time I find a person in the database it is a citation of the FindAGrave source.  The first time I used FindAGrave as a source I used the First Reference Note format. For additional citations of various people or additional citations for the first person, I would use the Subsequent Note format.  

My issue is how do I record the “citing”, authorship and additional details for the different citations if I am using the Subsequent Note format.

 

This is example of 2 references to FindAGrave to help explain my problem:

Item #1 

Find A Grave, database and images, (www.findagrave.com; accessed 11 July 2024), memorial page for John Hughes (1858- 2 Apr 1936), Find a Grave Memorial no 204230376, citing Strathroy Municipal Cemetery, Strathroy, Middlesex County, Ontario, Canada; maintained by and photographed by miran.

( https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/204230376/john-hughes ) 

 

Item #2 (Subsequent Note)

Find A Grave, database and images, (www.findagrave.com; accessed 11 July 2024), memorial page for Susan Ann Denning Chantler (12 Jun 1864 - 16 Mar 1938), Find a Grave Memorial no 220206368. 

( https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/220206368/susan-ann-chantler )

What happens to the “citing Woodland Cemetery, London, Middlesex County, Ontario, Canada; maintained by jan and photographed by orange.” that would have appeared in a First Reference Note and is not in the very first use of the FindAGrave source i.e. item #1?

Any guidance would be very much appreciated. 

Sue

 

Submitted byEEon Sat, 08/03/2024 - 19:01

Hello, SeekingAnswers.

Have you seen the Q&A with Linda Rgers at https://www.evidenceexplained.com/node/1993? Note, there, that the "subsequent citation" is to the same memorial page, not a different one.

If you create a subsequent citation for additional memorial pages (perhaps because you are using a relational database that is structured this way), then you have to add the additional information crediting the parties, just as you did in the original citation.

One tweak: After you have cited Find A Grave as the website, you don't have to repeat "Find A Grave" again before the memorial number.

Thank you for your swift reply.

I have read a number of threads and references so I am not able to say for sure if I read the one to which you refer.  I went back to the drawing board and found that this particular posting https://www.evidenceexplained.com/node/2036  was close to may problem along with the use of the word “citing”.

The light finally came on.  I was getting mixed up on when to use a layer citation and when to use a single line.

I appreciate your wisdom and find this site very valuable.

Thank you again

Sue

 

Submitted bygreglovelaceon Wed, 08/07/2024 - 12:38

Hi, EE

Another question...  If I am writing a report which contains several references to Find A Grave for different individual graves, should I use a full First Reference Note format for each one?  Or is there a shortened version?  As I see it presently, I should use a full note for each new memorial.  Thanks for guidance!

Greg

Submitted byEEon Mon, 08/12/2024 - 09:19

Greg, exactly how would you create a short citation for a new memorial at Find A Grave after previously citing a different memorial? The basic information that would be repeated in each citation— Find A Grave (https://www.findagrave.com)—hardly lends itself to shortening. Most of the length of a Find A Grave citation consists of seven items that have to be provided for each first reference to a page:

  • Exact URL (if we choose to cite to the exact page rather than the website itself)
  • Date of access
  • Identification of page
  • Identification of what we are citing on that page (memorial, tombstone image, etc.)
  • Identification of person who maintains the page or posted a photograph
  • Notation as to whether the memorial information we are copying into our research notes carries accompanying evidence or whether it's just unsupported claims.