Scotlandsplaces website

Editor, Greetings again!
I am struggling with a citation model for the Scotlandsplaces website. The databases on this website are various. I am using placenames A-Z for various farmsteads in the parish of Old Deer, Aberdeenshire. For example: Slampton farmstead. The citiation model I have created is:

National Archives of Scotland, " Ordinance Survey Name Books, 1865-1871," database, Scotlandplaces.gov.uk.(italics) (www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk: accessed 10 August 2015), entry for Slampton, parish of Old Deer, Aberdeenshire; citing OS1/1/68/139.

This is my first effort. The citing portion at the end is troublesome as I am not sure what exactly to refer to besides the book, volume, page data. Help Please! Teresa Mills

Submitted byMillsTAon Sun, 10/11/2015 - 20:03

Editor, actually the begining of my citation should be National Records of Scotland (NRS). Teresa Mills

Teresa, I assume you've seen the 7.43 discussion of the website ScotlandsPeople, which represents the same situation as the site ScotlandsPlaces.  Both are created by a consortium of several different archives, not just the archives now known as National Records of Scotland. We resolved the issue there by simply using "Scotland." in the author column. You could, if you prefer, do as we do for books and journal articles that have multiple authors: i.e., cite the first two or three and then say et al. But this would create a quite lengthy entry in the author's field.

You also say:

"The citing portion at the end is troublesome as I am not sure what exactly to refer to besides the book, volume, page data." 

When I queried this site for the particular Slampton of your interest, the results page gave me two options—two different maps. The first was "Ordnance Survey Six-inch To The Mile, Aberdeenshire, Sheet Xxi." Clicking on that link gave me the database page that cited the map as Ref. number 74425323, National Library of Scotland, as well as the book and page data.

If this were an EE citation, after the word "citing," we would identify the map by title (in quotes), ref number, volume: page, and repository.  No one would fault you for using the cryptic OS1/1/68/139. However, EE would use the fuller citation that all readers of the citation could understand and evaluate appropriately.

Submitted byMillsTAon Mon, 10/12/2015 - 12:40

Editor,

Thank you for a prompt answer. It was very helpful. I did look at the EE section 7.43, however I was just a little unsure. This site looks qute different than ScotlandsPeople AND it is not a pay site. I was a little confused. HA HA! I do need to clarifysomething. I was specifically using the Ordinance Survey Name Books. They are not the maps. There are about 91 of them. If I use the model you are referring to, my citation would not include that last citing reference at all. Correct? It would be:

 

Scotland, "Ordinance Survey Name Books, 1865-1871," database, ScotlandsPlaces (www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk: accessed 10 August 2015), entry for Slampton, Parish of Old Deer, Aberdeenshire.

I would appreciate your input.

Teresa Mills

Submitted byEEon Mon, 10/12/2015 - 21:48

Teresa, you are right that you would not cite the map if you did not use the map.  When I sought the information, only two maps came up. The hits did not include "Ordinance Survey Name Books, 1865-1871." 

So, how would you cite what you found in a way that someone else can find it at that website, with only the home-page URL?

Submitted byMillsTAon Tue, 10/13/2015 - 11:08

Editor,

I do see what you are asking me to do.  When entering the place name Slampton, for example, in the search box, a list of options appears on the next page. One option is "Ordinace Survey Name Books." These books give descriptions and locations of places, such as Slampton, which is a farmstead. Once you choose, a new page opens with a transcribed description of the place name (Slampton) from the specific survey book. At the top of the page there appears the pathway: Home> resources>Ordinance Survey Name Books>Aberdeenshire OS Name Books, 1865-1871> volume 68. The transcription tells you which page you are on within the volume, which is page 139. Also, included at the top of the page is the more cryptic version of the pathway, OS1/1/68/139.

This website contains various databases just as ScotlandsPeople does, for sure, and what I am using are transcriptions from the Ordinance Survey Name Books, for Aberdeenshire, not digital images from the original books. These transcriptions are then one database titled "Ordinance Survey Name Books," correct? But, specifically I am using the OS Book for Aberdeenshire, volume 68.  I am going back to my EE book to look for a better model. But, I could use your guidance. Thanks.

Submitted byMillsTAon Tue, 10/13/2015 - 12:58

Editor,

I am going to give this shot;

Scotland,"Aberdeenshire Ordinance Survey Name Books, 1865-1871," database with images and transcriptions,  ScotlandsPlaces (www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk : accessed 10 August 2015), transcribed description and situation of Slampton farmstead near Stuartfield, Old Deer Parish; citing OS1/1/68 : 139; National Records of Scotland (NRS), Edinburgh. 

If Iwould like to add the pathway how would I do that?

Submitted byEEon Tue, 10/13/2015 - 13:37

In reply to by MillsTA

That citation works fine, Teresa. 

As for a pathway citation, you've turned up a good example of why and when paths (aka waypoints) aren't a good approach to use.  I'll put this on my list of to-do topics for the QuickTips blog.