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After reading EE, I am still a little confused about the use of the shortened form of a citation. Can you help me better understand the principles that apply to the use of shortened forms of citations.
For example, consider census records. Subsequent footnotes can differ as:
- different census year, different county (same state), different family, or
- different census year, different family (same county/state), or
- different census year only, (i.e. same county, same family)
It would seem that #1would require full citation for each footnote of this type. But, what about examples #2 and #3? Do these still require full citations; or can I use a shortened version.
Another example is death certificates for the same county and state. Each certificate is different in name, certification number, but they were all found in the State Archives. It would seem reasonable to use a shortened form after the first full citation. What's the right answer?
The short form examples of EE tell me how to format the citation, but they always a shortened version of the same (but full) citation.
Thanks....Mike
Mike, the key thought in
Mike, the key thought in creating short forms for censuses is caution. Census citations are detail intensive; leaving out any one of those details could be regrettable. EE's examples for citing the originals or images in "short form" do drop the identification of the microfilm publication and roll number, and the archive where originals are located (details that need appear only in the first full reference note). They also abbreviate common words, but the rest of the census detail almost always needs to be repeated.
I was hoping you could expand
I was hoping you could expand a bit upon Mike's original question. I, too, am having a difficult time deciding where to draw the line when it comes to subsequent (short) footnotes. Lets take, for example, the 1870 U.S. census for Tarrant County, Texas. If your research cites five households within the county in that census, do you use a full footnote for the first instance of each household? Or just one full footnote per county per census year?
This is a roundabout way of nailing the lumper/splitter jello to a proverbial tree. But I think there may be more of a clear delineation than just personal taste.
Alas, BBailey, no one can nail jello to a tree. Nor can we make a hard, fast, rule about short-form citations that someone can apply anytime, anywhere. As researchers, we always have to appraise each situation and choose the best course of action.
The issue you’ve raised is one that needs to be dealt with in two parts. Let’s put each in a separate message.
ISSUE 1:
You and Mike have asked for a rule to apply when citing censuses. However, neither of you have defined the most critical issue: Where are you using the citation? Whether to use a full citation or a shortened citation is a decision we make at the time that we do a piece of writing. For example:
Your “lumper vs. splitter” analogy—an argument that rages among users of relational databases—suggests that you are not actually thinking about writing but are in the data-entry stage. If so, the one hard and fast rule here is a simple one: data entry is not the time to make a long-form vs. short-form decision.
Yes, when we use a relational database software, at the point that we enter the identification of a new source, the software does prompt us to create a short-form citation. But, from that point on, we don’t make a choice between a full reference note or a short citation. It’s not an issue until we tell the database to print a report. At that point, the database itself makes the decision based upon what portions of the data we choose to include in the report.
If you are using a relational database, EE has to ask two further questions:
In short: does your question center upon the data-entry process or the writing process?
ISSUE 2:
For this, let’s go back to Mike’s original posting and look at the three scenarios he presents:
Mike then adds:
>It would seem that #1 would require full citation for each footnote of this type. But, what about examples #2 and #3? Do these still require full citations; or can I use a shortened version.
EE will answer these two questions with a question: If we do a full citation for one census year and then cite the same family in a different year, how could we get by with using a short citation to the different year, when each census is a different source? (The 1880 census of, say, Custer County, Colorado, has one particular set of identifying details. The 1900 census of Custer has a different set of identifying details. We have to use a different microfilm publication for each. Each year appears on a different roll number. The enumeration district names or numbers are likely to be different. &c &c &c.)
Mike, then wrote:
>The short form examples of EE tell me how to format the citation, but they always [use] a shortened version of the same (but full) citation.
Yes, they do because, of course, that’s what a short-form citation does.
EE’s examples do not address the situations covered by the three bulleted scenarios because those three scenarios all involve three different sources. Each one, the first time it’s cited, has to be cited in full. Each one, if used again, can be shortened. EE’s census chapter (pp. 235–308) demonstrates how to do that for many different types of censuses—U.S. and international. But each census is a different source.
BBailey also asked:
BBailey also asked:
>Lets take, for example, the 1870 U.S. census for Tarrant County, Texas. If your research cites five households within the county in that census, do you use a full footnote for the first instance of each household? Or just one full footnote per county per census year?
Again, the first consideration is where are we creating the citation. For database entries, we use one practice. In the writing stage, our practice might differ according to what kind of product we are producing.
To create an example, let's say that (a) we are writing an article or a research report; and (b) we are writing about three individuals who migrated into Tarrant County before the Civil War. A number of scenarios then present themselves:
A full citation to just one person might be this:
1870 U.S. census, Tarrant County, Texas, population schedule, Precinct 1, Post Office: Fort Worth, p. 537 (stamped), dwelling 937, family 939, E. C. Bradford; National Archives microfilm publication M593, roll 1605.
A shortened citation to that same person might be this:
1870 U.S. census, Tarrant Co., Tex., pop. sch., Precinct 1, P.O. Fort Worth, p. 537 (stamped), dwell. 937, fam. 939, E. C. Bradford.
If, say, the second time we cited this census, our text stated that Bradford lived next door to H. C. Childress. In that case, our shortened citation to that census we have already cited in full might be this:
1870 U.S. census, Tarrant Co., Tex., pop. sch., Precinct 1, P.O. Fort Worth, p. 537 (stamped), dwell. 937, fam. 939, E. C. Bradford; and dwell. 938, fam. 940, H. C. Childress.
Or, let's say, the second time we need to cite this census, we are not talking about Bradford at all. We are only talking about Childress. In that case, we could also use the shortened citation:
1870 U.S. census, Tarrant Co., Tex., pop. sch., Precinct 1, P.O. Fort Worth, p. 537 (stamped), dwell. 938, fam. 940, H. C. Childress.
If our next reference to the census switches to a different page, we can still use the short form, repeating every element up to the page number, then filling out the rest of the short form with the specific details.
If our next reference to the census switches to a different post office, then we could use the short form up to the point of the post office identification. Then we would complete the short form citation with the specific details needed.
If our next reference to the census switches to a different precinct, then we could use the short form up to the point of the precinct's I.D., then we would complete the short form citation with the specific details needed.
If, however, this were a year in which Tarrant County's returns are split across two different microfilm rolls, and our persons-of-interest appeared on different rolls, then a short-form citation to one roll would not work for citing someone on a different roll.
As with all citations, we have to thoughtfully consider the situation involved and decide exactly what elements will be needed in each case.
Thank you for the thoughtful
Thank you for the detailed explanation of this scenario. You were correct in your assumption that this is a data entry conundrum. I understand that the full vs. short citation choice is a "print-time" decision. However, the choice of how much data to include in the Master Source guides the software as to when it needs to make that decision.
In order to make accurate short citations, it would seem that your Master Source would need to include up to the most specific field you're positive would be shared by any combination of citations to that source produced in a report (based on the individuals in your project). In the Tarrant County scenario above, that would be the microfilm roll.
However, if you're dealing with digital images of the same census, that delineation would seem to be at the household level, because each image has different access dates, which would not be included in a short citation.
I understand you don't want to get into the weeds too deeply with software issues, but for genealogists who are dealing with projects containing more than a handful of families, I think this is an important concept to flesh out. I'm wondering if this is more of a black-and-white issue than has been portrayed in the community.
BBailey: You're right. EE
BBailey: You're right. EE does try to stay out of the weed patches that bear the names of specific software. But let's follow your train of thought here to the next station--or the next two of them.
EE, you are correct on both
EE, you are correct on both counts. Although I could make a small argument for using "downloaded" instead of "accessed" for a digital image, so your Master Source would agree with the date of the image in your media files.
I'm beginning to argue to myself that there is no good reason to use citation-level details in lineage-linked software, except to add remarks, comments, etc. The only exception which comes to mind immediately is a traditional book, where the page number would be at citation level. If a researcher wanted to output accurate short footnotes, every census household, every vital register entry, every obituary, etc. would need to be cited from a separate Master Source entry.
I sense from your questions in the last post, that's what you would recommend as well?
BBailey: No, EE would not
BBailey: No, EE would not recommend creating a master source for every census household, every entry in register, or every obituary in some online database. However, this being New Year's Eve, EE will let you mull the problem while we make merry elsewhere. In the next couple of days, we'll use this as fodder for the daily tip at EE's Facebook page.
BBailey:
BBailey:
One further question: Have you tried the approach used for the 1850 Source List Entry at EE 6.20 and 6.25?
EE, I think I may be
EE, I think I may be confusing my terminology. I'm not having an issue with the actual output for the source list/bibliography. Even though I will have a separate Master Source entry/record in the database for each census househould, the Source List/Bibliography template fields are identical for each of those records. The software does an excellent job of aggregating those into a single entry in the printed source list/bibliography. The only exception would be, as we discussed above, when I would use multiple websites. Then the software would print separate source list entries for each website.
The only change that I made in the Source List template from what you have in 6.25 is to leave out the access year. When the software aggregates the Source List entries for output, it cannot resolve multiple years and defaults to printing the year of the first cited record.
Thanks for clarifying BBailey
Thanks for clarifying BBailey. We love our software, but we do get frustrated with their wrinkles!