Citation Issues

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"Source of the Source" Question

I have a citation for an image from Ancestry taken from a series of books.  Here's my attempt at a citation:

“Connecticut Town Birth Records, pre-1870 (Barbour Collection),” database and images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com : viewed 11 July 2016); imaging Lorraine Cook White, editor, The Barbour Collection of Connecticut Town Vital Records, 55 vols. (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1994-2002), [volume not given] : 216, entry for Celia Hills [Hill], b. 25 January 1816, Burlington.

Source List Entry and Short Note from a Layered Citation

I've been working on a citation to a certified photocopy of a delayed birth certificate which I hold in my files.  Using the QuickCheck Model on EE page 430 and multiple examples of layered citations I came up with the following:

Alabama, State Board of Health, Delayed Certificate of Birth (CERT. DATE), ID OF PERSON, Bureau of Vital Statistics,  Montgomery; certified copy, Alabama State Registrar of Vital Statistics; privately held by MY NAME [address for private use] CITY, Alabama, 2016

Ancestry citations

Dear EE,

My question(s) are really not new. However, I need some clarification, for myself. I am on the final (hopefully) edit of a descedancy lineage. Sigh! I began from the beginning this morning and lo and behold I am sooo confused, again, about citations with layers, especially digital images within databases at Ancestry and source of source issues. I wrote these citations months ago. Now I am second guessing what I have done.

Question on the QuickCheck: Image Copies Online Publication p.661

So just a quick question about the QuickCheck on page 661.   The source list entry uses the new format of "Image copy" and the first full ref note uses the new format "digital images", but all of the other information is the same.

Why would you cite them as different formats? Or was that more just saying that you could use either?

Citing a historical article on a website

I'm trying to write my first ever biographical sketch of an ancestor, and now that I've got all of his genealogical story written out with neattly footnoted citations to records and databases, which I'm most familiar with, I'm going to embellish his sketch with some interesting historical facts.  I've been reading through EE edition 2, Sections 2.33 - 2.54.  This may seem elementary, but I've never done this before and I'm a bit lost.

National Library of Ireland - Catholic Parish registers online

Last year the National Library of Ireland put all of its Catholic parish records online at http://registers.nli.ie/   I'm not sure how to cite the records I am finding.  Of course I started with my trusty copy of EE and the quick check model for Image Copies: Digitized Online,  but I'm still fumbling.  It seems like the NLI should be the lead element and not the church, since I'm not looking at a single parish's website.  Is this correct?  Here is what I came up with for the baptismal record for Jeremiah Broderick, baptized 3 May 1870.

repeating citation for fact cited previously.

Dear EE,

I searched through the forums for my topic and saw none. So, here it goes. I think I read somewhere that within a genealogy narrative it is not necessary to repeat a citiation for a fact that has already been cited. For example, a citation for a marriage of a daughter in one section of a genealogy being then cited again in the following section about a different daughter who witnessed that marriage. Teresa Mills