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After the Holocaust, various Dutch organizations worked together to help survivors file claims against the Germans. The organization was known as the Jokos Foundation. The files are available to descendants for review. The files are held in the Amsterdam Municipal Archive, but access is restricted through the JMW the Jewish social organization. Viewing, at least for me, involves getting permission from the JMW, then the JMW digitizes the file, and then provides the digitized file to me. This is a three level cert, the file, the gatekeeper, and my copy.
Jokos Foundation, no. 8525, Herman de Metz; administered by JMW, (https://www.joodswelzijn.nl/ik-heb-hulp-ondersteuning-nodig-themas/jokosdossiers-en-lirokaarten); copy delivered 15 August 2020 to David Grawrock [address for private use] Ivins, Utah.
I'm not including the archive as JMW was my contact and creator of the copy.
Hello, Cryptoref. Three…
Hello, Cryptoref. Three thoughts here:
So here is the rewrite …
So here is the rewrite
Jokos Foundation (Amsterdam), files archived at Gemeente Amsterdam Stadsarchief, no. 8525, Herman de Metz; administered by JMW (https://www.joodswelzijn.nl/ik-heb-hulp-ondersteuning-nodig-themas/jokosdossiers-en-lirokaarten); copy delivered 15 August 2020 to David Grawrock [address for private use] Ivins, Utah.
The JMW brings up a question for me. The JMW was previously expanded as part of the description of the Jokos Foundation. Once defined we can use the acronym without expansion, correct? But the kicker is, if we copy that single citation (as for example to a photocopy), then as the citation is standing alone, it would need expansion.
Cryptoref, it would help if…
Cryptoref, it would help if we were to back up and examine the issue of sequence of elements in an archival citation. Chapter 3 is the chapter that deals with materials in formal archives whose records are organized via an hierarchical structure.
Within that framework:
The first layer of your rewrite is this:
Jokos Foundation (Amsterdam), files archived at Gemeente Amsterdam Stadsarchief, no. 825, Herman de Metz;
This arrangement begins in the middle of hierarchy, moves to the largest entity, then drops the smallest entity. So let’s rethink things …
You are using a file which, typically, would include multiple documents. In your Source List, you would normally cite to the collection, not the document. In a reference note, we typically cite the document (and author, if there is one), that provides the specific bit of detail we are asserting in our narrative. However, there are occasions when we want to simply say that a collection or file exists rather than cite one individual document. In that case, your first layer (going from smallest to largest) would be this:
Herman de Metz file, no. 8525, Jokos Foundation Files, Gemeentearchief Amsterdam Stadarchief (Amsterdam Municipal Archives, The Netherlands; ...
International Style (going from largest to smallest) would be this:
Gemeentearchief Amsterdam Stadarchief, Jokos Foundation Files, no. 8525, Herman de Metz; ...
However, this leaves us wondering about something else. Rarely would a full citation say “XYZ Files, Such-and-Such Archives.” A file collection is normally within some series or record group, which often carries a number as well as a name by which to identify it.
LAYER 2
We still need clarifying data here. The reader has no idea what “administered by JMW” means. The reader still does not know what “JMW” represents. Given that you are citing a website, then a website title should be in italics to tell readers “this is the full and official name of the website.” When we use your URL, we are sent to one particular page at the website—not the home page. That page needs to be cited also for clarity. EE’s second layer would be this:
… ; ordered through “Jokos Files and Liro Cards,” JMW [Jewish social welfare group] JMW (https://www.joodswelzijn.nl/ik-heb-hulp-ondersteuning-nodig-themas/jokosdossiers-en-lirokaarten); …
And now, if we're lucky, Yvette Hoitink may weigh in on this subject.
Happy to weigh in. For the…
Happy to weigh in.
For the first layer, I would cite JOKOS as the record creator, since it was the JOKOS foundation that created the file you're looking at. In the second layer, I would describe where the file is held, which is in the record group of the Stichting Joods Maatschappelijk Werk kept at the Amsterdam City Archives. I personally would not mix that in with the first layer as the Amsterdam City Archives is just the place where this foundation happens to have an agreement with to keep their records. I like to keep my first layer as close to the original as possible and not mix it with the place where it happens to be kept, but that's a matter of personal style. In the third layer, I would explain how I obtained the file.
In total, my citation would be:
JOKOS foundation, file no. 8525, Herman de Metz; "Archief van de Stichting Joods Maatschappelijk Werk" [Archives of the Foundation Jewish Social Work], Record Group 1168, Amsterdam City Archives, Amsterdam; scans ordered via "Jokosdossiers en Lirokaarten," JMW (https://www.joodswelzijn.nl/ik-heb-hulp-ondersteuning-nodig-themas/jokosdossiers-en-lirokaarten).
In my main text or in an additional sentence in the footnote, I would explain what JOKOS is and how their records are now administered by the JMW and kept at the Amsterdam Archives.
Thanks, Yvette, for weighing…
Thanks, Yvette, for weighing in. The issue you point to in your first paragraph is an important one. It’s also one complicated by today's electronic delivery of records. Handling it boils down to how we use that bit of punctuation puffery called the semicolon!
For those who love to explore the weeds, I’ll now wade into this particular patch. For a century or so, when researchers personally accessed documents in a physical archive, they'd have a relatively simple citation following the basic pattern laid out for manuscripts in EE's QuickStart Guide:
Author-creator, "Document Title," specific page and/or date; file, collection, series; repository, city, state.
Using EE's terminology for complicated citations, we could call these layers, with semicolons separating the layers—i.e.,
But then these records began to be delivered through websites. That requires us to rethink the basic format. The website is a different entity from the archive. If we simply add another semicolon and another layer, without any other adjustment, then we create a false impression. Following the basic pattern for citing these documents:
If, to provide data on the website, we add another semicolon and tack on a website, then we are saying:
Obviously, the archive is not found at the website. We are no longer going from smallest to largest—we’re veering off into a different direction, without an announcement or an alert.
EE’s solution is to adjust the punctuation, which is the usual way to put “alerts” into sentences. The common usage of semicolons, of course, is to separate major groups of items in a series, when those groups have internal commas.
Documents accessed through websites require us to redefine those “major groups.” EE regroups them this way:
Your citation takes all this into consideration. The difference is that you’ve split Layer 1 into two, and dropped Layer 3. Splitting Layer 1 causes a readjustment of the sequence of items in each layer to maintain clarity and you’ve done that. That sends us back to EE 2.1: Citation is an art, not a science—and artists do not all draw lines in the same place.
Forgot to add: I would…
Forgot to add: I would personally not cite the email that they then used to send it to me. I might do that in my working notes to easily find that email again, but not otherwise. The third layer already explains how I obtained the file. It doesn't matter which employee sent it to me.
I add things in a citation if they do one or both:
If I already included in my citation how to order the record, adding the email does nothing for either of these points. The cited website has instructions for other people to duplicate the process (although they won't be able to access the file unless they're next-of-kin). But they won't be able to access the email either.
Yes we were lucky and Yvette…
Yes we were lucky and Yvette did weigh in, with lots of good info :)
The only thing i see missing is the provenance from 3.24, i understand Yvette's comment that i'm not going to release it nor will JMW as they aren't next-of-kin, but i still think a provenance statement is necessary. So this is what i'd end up with.
JOKOS foundation, file no. 8525, Herman de Metz; "Archief van de Stichting Joods Maatschappelijk Werk" [Archives of the Foundation Jewish Social Work], Record Group 1168, Amsterdam City Archives, Amsterdam; scans ordered via "Jokosdossiers en Lirokaarten," JMW (https://www.joodswelzijn.nl/ik-heb-hulp-ondersteuning-nodig-themas/jokosdossiers-en-lirokaarten). Scan delivered 15 August 2020 and held by David Grawrock [address for private use], Ivins, Utah.
And yes i do have a description of JOKOS and JMW in the body of the text.
Cryptoref, 'what we are…
Cryptoref, 'what we are seeing' (from the broader perspective) is something many researchers hate to: citation is not just a formula we can follow to say we've identified our source. With every source, past the simple book and article we learned to use in our secondary school essays, there are a variety of issues to consider—any of which could affect the reliability of our data as well as someone's ability to find it again.
What we are seeing is that these variables cannot be (or need not be) reduced to one rigid formula. Yvette's concept of layering splits into two layers the details known for the record and its archive, then drops the layer for provenance. She gives logical reasons. EE would put those details into one layer and (like you) include the provenance layer. EE also lays out logical reasons. In either case, a solid citation has been created by understanding basic patterns, analyzing the record set and its essential identifiers, and then making an effort to "keep together what goes together" to ensure clarity.
And, of course, Yvette also added the name and number of the record group—something that archivists, alas, often do not supply when they gather documents in response to a request. Her knowledge of Dutch records never fails us.
First a HUGE thank you to…
First a HUGE thank you to both EE and Yvette. Taking the time to teach is a wonderful thing. I only hope that i can pay it forward at some point in time.
Strangely, I find this exploration of art and science to be fascinating. You first have to be the scientist to understand the basics, and then you need an artists touch to create the individual citation. I've almost got the science down to where I create decent citations, not by any means an artist yet.
Thanks again to both for teaching me both the science and the art.
That's what we're here for,…
That's what we're here for, cryptoref. Glad to help.