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In studying EE I frequently encounter references to "the database" but, so far nothing that firms up (for me) how to confidently recognize that it is a database I'm consulting.
- Database: A digital finding aid that provides searchable access to pieces of data extracted from other sources or material items assembled from elsewhere.
As worded, this fits my conception of what "database" means. My concern might be expressed as this:
Isn't every website a database?
Or... is the database always a behind-the-scenes entity that may or may not be identified by title?
In the case of Ancestry, careful investigation often reveals that the record is an "online database" (which might be used to fill the type/format field in my citation) but a title for the database is not always specified. Also, in cases where an image is provided, I become anxious about whether to cite the image or the database.
I am tempted to answer my own question by stating that the text at the top when selecting Ancestry's "Record" button is properly the title of the database.
But I'm not sure...
My apologies if this subject has been raised before.
Wayneson
Wayneson, yes in…
Wayneson, yes in technological terms, websites are databases. However, some website databases offer images and others do not. Some of the latter offer authored articles and some offer raw data that has been extracted from somewhere else into a kajillion database enties.
Because these differences make a significant difference in the quality of the evidence we are using, Evidence Style citationsuse a descriptor field after the title of the database to indicate what kind of database we are using.
Re your fifth paragraph:
Q1: "In the case of Ancestry ... a title for the database is not always specified" ...
A: Would you give us an explicit example to work with?
Q2: "in cases where an image is provided, I become anxious about whether to cite the image or the database."
A: We cite both. Here, we have two options:
QuickLesson 19: Layered Citations Work Like Layered Clothing discusses this in greater detail.
Re: Q1 Here's what I've…
Re: Q1
Here's what I've been working on:
“Historical Newspapers Collection,” database with images of microfilm copies, Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/search/categories/histnews/ : accessed 28 December 2022); “The Wellsboro Agitator (Wellsboro, Pennsylvania),” image, Wednesday, October 11, 1939, “Knowlton-Quimby,” p.1, col.3, paragraph 5, marriage (8 Oct 1939).
I definitely would like to focus on the "database" via a 2-layer citation - but my mind is having trouble landing on a specific conception of the database I'm using and its title.
Page I am looking at: https…
Page I am looking at:
https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/50179/images/NEWS-PA-TH_WE_AG.1939_10_11_0001
Wayneson, a full citation to…
Wayneson, a full citation to a newspaper article is a lot to stuff into the "specific item" field of a citation to a database. If you choose that approach, then you'd simply follow the format for a full citation to a newspaper article and stuff it all into that one field of the database citation.
Your citation draft, above, takes that approach—sorta. It inverts the order of the items you are citing and uses punctuation that actually communicates something else. The specific item you are citing from that website should not be separated off into a different layer by inserting a semicolon between the two. By longstanding tradition (in other words: the standard communication that everyone understands or is taught to understand), a citation to a standalone publication (website, book, etc.) places a comma after the parenthetical publication data and then cites the specific page or item.
A two-layer citation, in which the two separate publications are separated by a semi-colon, will first present the original as a full citation in Layer 1. It will then add a semicolon to tell readers that we are about to cite a totally different source, but we will use bridge words to indicate the connection between the two. For example: ; imaged in ...
However, if you present the database first, then add a semicolon followed by a totally different source, then you are using the traditional form of presenting two unrelated sources. You're lacking a connector or an explanation.
Yes, punctuation and sequence might be considered nitpicking. But punctuation and sequence are two of the tools that writers use to communicate their intent.
Draft rework - options 1 & 2…
Draft rework - options 1 & 2
“The Wellsboro Agitator (Wellsboro, Pennsylvania),” image of microfilm copy, Ancestry (https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/50179/ : accessed 28 Dec 2022), Wednesday, October 11, 1939, “Knowlton-Quimby,” p.1, col.3, paragraph 5, marriage (8 Oct 1939); imaged in “Historical Newspapers Collection,” database with images of microfilm copies, Ancestry (https://www.ancestry.com/search/categories/histnews/ : accessed 28 Dec 2022), The Wellsboro Agitator.
“Historical Newspapers Collection,” database with images of microfilm copies, Ancestry (https://www.ancestry.com/search/categories/histnews/ : accessed 28 Dec 2022), The Wellsboro Agitator; “Knowlton-Quimby,” image of microfilm copy, The Wellsboro Agitator (Wellsboro, Pennsylvania) (https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/492645377:50179 : accessed 28 Dec 2022), p.1, col.3, paragraph 5, marriage (8 Oct 1939).
Double URL's in each citation looks strange to me...